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Wednesday, August 11th 2010, 2:53pm

Fuel Pump Leak!

Hi Guys,

Not very sure if I post on the right thread.

I having some issue with my 1200 GS at my Fuel Pump.

Attach of photos for better understanding.

It was leaking very bad as I thought it was the O-Ring need to be change but I believe it was worse than I thought of.

From BMW, they say I need to change the whole pump system which will cost about $300 US, which I think it is too much and it is only just that fuel release need to change and it should be ok but they don't it by itself need to buy the whole set.



I was thinking if anyone here having the same issue as me and able to help me out.

Thank you all.

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Wednesday, August 11th 2010, 2:54pm

Anyone here who having this issue now?

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Thursday, August 12th 2010, 12:27am

I haven't had this issue nor did I ever hear about it anywhere.

Looking at my own assembly, it seems the female side of the plug is glued or welded to the fuel pump flange. This would explain why the BMW workshop sees the need to replace the entire flange. To me it seems a smart mechanic would be able to do something about it without the need for a complete flange. But I have doubts there is someone in Singapore. May be someone else can advice better than me.

Fuel pump flange, no. 5
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Friday, August 13th 2010, 9:37am

Quoted from "Peter"

I haven't had this issue nor did I ever hear about it anywhere.

Looking at my own assembly, it seems the female side of the plug is glued or welded to the fuel pump flange. This would explain why the BMW workshop sees the need to replace the entire flange. To me it seems a smart mechanic would be able to do something about it without the need for a complete flange. But I have doubts there is someone in Singapore. May be someone else can advice better than me.

Fuel pump flange, no. 5

Quoted from "Peter"

I haven't had this issue nor did I ever hear about it anywhere.

Looking at my own assembly, it seems the female side of the plug is glued or welded to the fuel pump flange. This would explain why the BMW workshop sees the need to replace the entire flange. To me it seems a smart mechanic would be able to do something about it without the need for a complete flange. But I have doubts there is someone in Singapore. May be someone else can advice better than me.

Fuel pump flange, no. 5


I'm not sure if the female side of the plug is glued or welded to the fuel pump flange too, that is why I want to if anyone here had his issue.

If it is then I had to change the whole fuel pump which cost about$590 SDG!!!!! PML :thumbdown:

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Monday, August 30th 2010, 9:08am

Project for my GS

I took out the female part of the quick disconnect and this how it look like.



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Monday, August 30th 2010, 9:11am

When I took out the quick disconnect.



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Monday, August 30th 2010, 10:43am

So from now it should be easy or? Vendor for CPC couplers like Colder, Clicky.

Distributors in Singapore
- Accutech
- Air Dynamics

A parts supplier: Rs-Online

Let us know about the outcome!
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Monday, August 30th 2010, 12:16pm

Thanks Peter... I'm still working on the washer. Update later at night.

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Tuesday, August 31st 2010, 9:31am

Project fail... :(

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Tuesday, August 31st 2010, 10:37am

What exactly failed, and where is the leakage now?
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Tuesday, August 31st 2010, 2:56pm

Quoted from "Peter"

What exactly failed, and where is the leakage now?


Well I don't know what to say but sad to say I fail....

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Wednesday, September 8th 2010, 11:58am

Bike is on the road again and the replacement cost is $498 SDG.

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Wednesday, September 8th 2010, 12:37pm

That is good to hear! But for the benefit of the others: What exactly failed?
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Saturday, September 11th 2010, 8:23pm

I am curious too. Looked like you could replace the coupler unless the housing was cracked. 8-)
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Tuesday, September 14th 2010, 9:52am

Hey guys,

I'm not sure what is is the problem, I only know that at the quick disconnect female side was just screw in with loctite to output of the fuel pump, after about 2 years++ or I should say about 80 000KM on the road. The loctite may had wear out or just my luck. Fuel start leaking from the area.

I did try to use o-ring or washer but it does not help at all and got worse.

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Tuesday, September 14th 2010, 1:15pm

Of course an o-ring or a washer would not do it there. If it did, then BMW would have put one in there already.
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Thursday, September 16th 2010, 9:57am

Quoted from "Peter"

Of course an o-ring or a washer would not do it there. If it did, then BMW would have put one in there already.


I know but BMW are using loctite to hold it, I look at the part and I thik it could be repair just that I may need time and time which I don't have.

Never mind that it is replace and I am on the road again...

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Wednesday, November 23rd 2011, 12:12am

Today I noticed it got me, too!

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Saturday, November 26th 2011, 11:54pm

It's the severely cracked fuel pump flange.








Here a picture collection taken from other GS-ers:

Source Davegaz at www.advrider.com


Source Marchyman at http://www.bmwmoa.org


A try to fix the cracked flange, by JimVonBaden at www.advrider.com


... and the best news, there is another similar flange on the right side: Source Michnus at www.ukgser.com


I will ask Colder for a comment. That's the manufacturer of the coupler.


Fuel pump flange 16147691483, S$ 377.20
Gasket 16117677883, $S 16.87
Plug 13537674765, $S 29.70
Hose clip 16121176918, $S 2.70
Labour $S 126
7 % GST
Total $S 591.14 / US$ 450.51 / Euro 340.12
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Thursday, January 5th 2012, 1:54am

ABS plastic repair.

IS the Fuel pump top ABS plastic?? If so try this ABS platic repair. I've had some luck with car parts. It might work here. :yes:

As a last ditch before I replaced the fuel pump I would try this ABS repair.

What you need is a can of MEK, a glass jar, and some peaces of ABS plastic. (Preferably Black to match your pump).

Warning : wear gloves!! MEK is absorbed through the skin and is not good for you!!!

Cut up the ABS into small peaces, about the size of a finger nail. Put the ABS in the glass jar add the MEK until it’s about an inch above the plastic level. Let it sit overnight. It should become a gooey paste.

Clean the area around the pump fitting female side. I would remove the plastic male fitting itself or it could get welded to the pump. Install a bolt to keep the MEK paste out of the pump female fitting threads and also to stretch the threads like the male fitting was installed. If you don’t the female thread side might crack again when you reinstall the male fitting. You could just leave the male fitting in but it might become a permanent fixture. If the pump top is allready cracked not much loss anyway.

Lightly brush clean MEK around the pump fitting to get the process started. Then put a ¼ inch bead of the MEK paste around the female fitting making sure to fill any exposed crack. Let it sit 24 to 48 hours to make sure it’s cured before use.
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