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Monday, August 27th 2007, 9:59am

valve adjust / mis-adjustment

My R1200GS never idled smoothly or ran particularly smooth since I bought it. At the 600 mile run-in service, the heads were supposed to have been re-torqued and the valves set. OK, it ran a little better but still not how I thought it should.

During my 6000 mile (10,000 KM) service, I discovered the valves on the left cyclinder had almost no clearance. Not wanting to be a whiner to my dealer, I called them and carefully asked if there is anything they know about that could cause this. Their answer was for me to schedule an appointment and bring the bike in for the regular service, about $400 USD. No thank you.

After carefully rechecking the clearances on the right cyclinder and making sure the engine was rotated to the correct position to set the valves on the left cyclinder, I set everything to factory spec.

Now the engine runs smoothly and fuel consumption is significantly better, > 50 mpg. Connecting a twinmax syncronizer to the throttle bodies, everything is perfect, no further adjustments were needed.

Makes me think everything was not set properly during service sessions by the dealer. I understand they work on many different machines each day and a person can get interrupted and not do everything correctly. I can take my time and insure things are set properly. Setting the valve clearance is one of the really simple tasks. Checking and balancing the throttle bodies is equally simple yet results in major benefits in engine performance. It pays to be careful. Now my engine performs as it was designed to do. :D
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Monday, August 27th 2007, 12:01pm

Looking at the quality of work they did for me, I have no complaints. The service prices are on the higher end but not unreasonable so far. There is no comparison to Suzuki in terms of professionalism. Albeit I have to say that I am sometimes a bit pissed by what I feel as a certain arrogance, and also by their "urge" to lesson me every time.

According to my workshop the valves are set tight by the factory. They will be loosened a little when the first service is done, and consequently brought to factory specs during the 6,000 m service. They told me that this done by BMW to facilitate better running in. However it sounds that you did get a model with very tight valves, and during the first service they may not have done much ...?
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Monday, August 27th 2007, 10:27pm

It's interesting to observe different groups of motorcyclists.
BMW riders appear to be more critical of their bikes and the
dealerships. We nit pick little details and make the people at
the dealerships go crazy. The dealerships sometimes over react
and treat the customers poorly. I don't want to over react and
blame either the manufacturer or the dealership.



My BMW is well designed, refined and is a joy to ride. My
dealership tries hard to please their customers while running a
profitable business. My last experience was a little frustrating
but the end result is I have a machine that operates well and a
dealership that provides parts and service and we are all happy.
That's a win/win situation. In a perfect world - oh well, it's
not a perfect world. Each week I work on multiple motorcycles for
other people. My concern is that I do a correct job for others
and not make too many mistakes. I hope any mistakes I make don't
result in someone getting hurt.
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Monday, August 27th 2007, 11:20pm

I have not the impression that you are overly critical, Stefan. I believe we can ask that things are done well for our money. And BMW markets that premium image, and expects us to pay premium money.

When reading the German BMW forums I do however get the impression BMW owners can be picky with everything and against reason. A wheel bearing fails after 4 years, and BMW does not replace it under warranty? Scandal - the entire forum goes havoc :devil: .

Make sure you are keeping all receipts and also records of what you have done. BMW seems very sensitive with claims after the regular warranty period, if there are no flawless service records. This is so in Germany. Don't know for the US.
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Wednesday, September 10th 2008, 1:08am

- Recently there was a report by someone who broke off the bash plate when going off-road. Actually only the rubbers were ripped off. He was disappointed that he had to pay the 30 Euros for new rubbers from his own pocket.
- Another person wrote a letter to Metzeler complaining about saw teeth on his Tourances, and demanding warranty. The tires had more than 9,000 miles.
- Quite a number of people seem not to be bothered about the hand guards dangling downwards, they don't care for tightening the screws. One person had the clutch worn early caused by the lever touching the shell. Of course that was a major issue.
- A person who had installed an aftermarket exhaust removed the heat shield from the left BMW case. He wanted a new case on warranty.

Can we BMW owners be a bit strange breed sometimes? :evil:
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Thursday, September 11th 2008, 10:51pm

NOPE, NOT ME!!! I'm not STRANGE at ALL :evil:
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Thursday, September 11th 2008, 11:55pm

As well Stefan and me not. But who then?
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